tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post110617305811404454..comments2024-03-27T08:33:11.834-07:00Comments on There is some truth in that: "Sex" outside marriageJonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-1106680464087990212005-01-25T11:14:00.000-08:002005-01-25T11:14:00.000-08:00Actually, I believe the term for what we unweds do...Actually, I believe the term for what we unweds do is "fornicate". Which is different than sex, by your definition. So I guess I'm still a virgin. Huh.<br /><br />Category science would have a lot to say about this. The people who call this a "conceptual confusion" are themselves committing a conceptual confusion. This may explain the dearth of socially conservative cognitive linguists.<br /><br />-- DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-1106190691985321202005-01-19T19:11:00.000-08:002005-01-19T19:11:00.000-08:00There are actually a number of people who would fi...There are actually a number of people who would find this view highly intuitive. If they see sex outside a marriage commitment as somehow incomplete, it's not too much beyond that to say that it's not really sex. I doubt most people who take the view you mention about marriage would say this, but some people might just bite the bullet on this and think that's exactly what they should say.<br /><br />The other way to go with it is to say that sex makes one married, and then having sex with someone else is tantamount to adultery. This view is actually held by Gordon Hugenberger, pastor of Park Street Church in Boston. He's no loony lone ranger type, either. He's got an adjunct professorship at a major evangelical seminary, and his church has the largest contemporary service (in terms of style) in the Boston area.<br /><br />I agree with you entirely that it's pretty dumb to ignore how language is in fact used by insisting that people would not have used language that way 50 years ago. If it's not a misuse of the term to allow a marriage of the minds, why not a marriage of two men or two women? They might be able to argue that the word is being used in a slightly different sense, but that's a very different view from saying it's a misuse of the word altogether to talk about gay marriage.Jeremy Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03441308872350317672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-1106173185277264212005-01-19T14:19:00.000-08:002005-01-19T14:19:00.000-08:00Note that it is a corralary that Bill Clinton did ...Note that it is a corralary that Bill Clinton did *not* have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. I guess he probably had "sexual" relations with her.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.com