tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post7665076212921931845..comments2024-03-27T08:33:11.834-07:00Comments on There is some truth in that: A Recent Email from Brian Leiter's Canadian LawyerJonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-60191514354638986682016-09-30T16:07:32.358-07:002016-09-30T16:07:32.358-07:00We haven't been sued. Indeed, we never heard b...We haven't been sued. Indeed, we never heard back from Professor Leiter's lawyer, after we went public and refused to deliver a retraction and apology. My understanding is that the statute of limitations for defamation is two years from publication. So we can't be sued for Carrie's blog post or the September Statement. I never thought that was likely, but I guess it's nice to be sure.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-73112505882206547502016-09-30T15:51:47.021-07:002016-09-30T15:51:47.021-07:00Has the statute of limitations run at this point? ...Has the statute of limitations run at this point? You're in the clear? He's just a blustering buffoon (shocker)? What happened to his six-figure judgment from you guys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-62889027688444437612015-05-14T07:52:29.364-07:002015-05-14T07:52:29.364-07:00I've heard nothing from him for several months...I've heard nothing from him for several months now.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-33577765747440469662015-05-14T02:22:41.167-07:002015-05-14T02:22:41.167-07:00Did Mr. Leiter make good his threat and file suit?...Did Mr. Leiter make good his threat and file suit? StephenGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13600923341005100207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-7757220349032706302015-01-22T06:58:52.080-08:002015-01-22T06:58:52.080-08:00I have also been the subject of a campaign by Bria...I have also been the subject of a campaign by Brian Leiter, an orchestrated one. More than just a legal defence fund, I suggest that truth is always a defence in defamation, and detriment to reputation needs to also show that detriment did not already exist. <br /><br />I strongly suggest that if Mr. Leiter and his counsel go ahead with this ridiculous lawsuit, you invite all and sundry on legal and philosophy blogs to share their experiences with you, and various emails they have received. There are things much more embarrassing to answer questions about than medical issues- and I can assure you that in light of the claims made in the letter from Leiter's counsel, they are very very relevant. <br /><br />On some level I'd like to see Leiter bring this lawsuit - it is hard to imagine something more self destructive than what it would uncover in the privileged environs of a courtroom, where someone cannot be sued or threatened with a suit for telling their story. Leiter's counsel if he is wise should ask Leiter some very searching questions and do his own research before filing proceedings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-64297955999094378842015-01-09T02:02:18.249-08:002015-01-09T02:02:18.249-08:00As an undergrad, I got on Leiter's radar by se...As an undergrad, I got on Leiter's radar by sending him (what I thought to be) a friendly and respectful email. Alas, I had the temerity to criticize him on some of the details of a blog post he had written (much of which I actually agreed with), and thus found myself on Leiter's "shit list." He subsequently hounded me online for years, writing nasty emails about me to my professors after I graduated and went to law school (I had no continued communication with him). Thus, I know firsthand what an irrational lunatic this creep is.<br /><br />If he sues you, please do set up a legal defense fund. If nothing else, it would give individuals another opportunity to voice approbation toward Leiter (if they want to disclose their identities). I would definitely donate quite generously. <br /><br />Best wishes -- and hope that 2015 turns out to be a better year for you! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-42637091715803350382015-01-04T15:53:44.070-08:002015-01-04T15:53:44.070-08:00I stumbled upon this whole Leiter thing by chance ...I stumbled upon this whole Leiter thing by chance and have been fascinated with how petty someone can be. You should know that 99.9% of people who read about this whole thing will side with you, so don't let him intimidate you. All the best!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-15434621644558319532014-12-30T01:58:49.495-08:002014-12-30T01:58:49.495-08:00Wow, merry xmas, right?
Damn. No one wants legal...Wow, merry xmas, right?<br /><br />Damn. No one wants legal threats, let alone at xmas! Sorry guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-37500596830111118752014-12-28T17:42:03.434-08:002014-12-28T17:42:03.434-08:00I'm not sure if this helps your case, but chec...I'm not sure if this helps your case, but check out the BL comment after comment 9:<br /><br />"BL COMMENT: It is hard to disagree with a call for collegiality and considerate behavior towards colleagues."<br /><br /><br />http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2014/02/criticisms-of-the-site-committee-report-on-colorado.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-57498860328608377342014-12-28T07:36:05.976-08:002014-12-28T07:36:05.976-08:00Jonathan,
I'm sorry that you and Carrie have...Jonathan, <br /><br />I'm sorry that you and Carrie have to deal with this. I'm glad that you're not giving in to this attempt at legal bullying, but I'm sorry for the hardships that come along with that decision. Derek Bowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-76209057413861786092014-12-27T08:32:29.095-08:002014-12-27T08:32:29.095-08:00I have a question here. I understand the offenses ...I have a question here. I understand the offenses and what has hapenned. <br />I do not understand this well. the september statement. was this initiated because of leiter's language used? can you do this only based on his behaviour, or is it done based on his mistakes he did with the PGR, rankings corrupt and so on? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-36927623465271503112014-12-26T13:39:54.740-08:002014-12-26T13:39:54.740-08:00I do not know any of them, neither Brian Leiter or...I do not know any of them, neither Brian Leiter or Carrie Jenkins.<br />I looked up at her webpage, her CV seems very impressive.<br />and that initial post by her did not even mention Leiter's name.<br />Leiter got upset because he thought it was about him and even if it was, it did not matter that much, it was not even mentioned his name. it's so stupid, it's unbelievable how stupid this is.<br />I understand why Carrie Jenkins is upset, what is wrong with Leiter?<br />why he writes like this? Cant he just use different words to express his indignation? thats what i think.<br />its obvious that this is what the issue is, isnt it?<br />Brian Leiter enervates very easily and he uses to express himself the way he uses to express himself, and he offended Carrie Jenkins.<br />I stop now, I needed to say all these. I am cool now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-45074807448498801462014-12-26T13:35:08.176-08:002014-12-26T13:35:08.176-08:00I think those e-mails are bad. a 5 year kid. I am ...I think those e-mails are bad. a 5 year kid. I am sorry. it i not even worth it, it's so stupid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-73048724605290210712014-12-26T11:44:41.536-08:002014-12-26T11:44:41.536-08:00Thanks, Anonymous. So far we have no plans to do t...Thanks, Anonymous. So far we have no plans to do that -- but if costs escalate, we may have to seek help. Hopefully it won't come to that.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-61834979478639998952014-12-26T11:42:47.779-08:002014-12-26T11:42:47.779-08:00I am sorry. I think there are two separate issues....I am sorry. I think there are two separate issues. it is in fact about how each person involved acted toward each other and not about PGR and Brian Leiter's contribution to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-62680890085156884222014-12-26T10:54:55.113-08:002014-12-26T10:54:55.113-08:00I'm not really sure where you're coming fr...I'm not really sure where you're coming from, Anonymous. This has nothing to do with what value there might or might not be in the PGR.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-13376650130609427842014-12-26T09:33:58.832-08:002014-12-26T09:33:58.832-08:00This post seems nonsensical.This post seems nonsensical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-3484031350176930072014-12-26T08:13:44.537-08:002014-12-26T08:13:44.537-08:00Are you starting a legal defense fund? Many people...Are you starting a legal defense fund? Many people would contribute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-35822365957952621922014-12-26T07:44:02.196-08:002014-12-26T07:44:02.196-08:00The best of luck in resolving this extraordinary i...The best of luck in resolving this extraordinary issue. Bewildering how a positive pledge to behave civilly in one's professional relationships could result in the calumny to which you both have been exposed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-4322725069680193142014-12-26T03:43:22.919-08:002014-12-26T03:43:22.919-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-74601579475992971682014-12-26T03:03:06.550-08:002014-12-26T03:03:06.550-08:00if i may say something...
the whole issue is abou...if i may say something...<br /><br />the whole issue is about the PGR, right?<br />is that really that wrongly done? honestly speaking? aren't the best universities on top, as they always have been? like, yale, oxford, cambridge, stanford, priceton. they are on top, right?<br />other than that, as a student, when you need to go to a university for your specific field, don't you look first who are the best teachers in the world working on that subject? and a good teacher does make the university go in rankings because he is a good teacher in that specific subject?<br />so how wrong can the PGR be?<br />other than that, you do not blame only Leiter for the PGR, you blame the entire teach of teachers who are working on the PGR? they are all wrong?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-34264440512991465622014-12-25T12:28:07.539-08:002014-12-25T12:28:07.539-08:00Failure to repeat the particular proffered explana...Failure to repeat the particular proffered explanation for why Leiter considers himself defamed isn't a misrepresentation; I merely declined to repeat some groundless and false assertions. I don't know what makes Brian Leiter think he knows the relevant facts about my family's medical situation, but what he's saying is false. My claim that Leiter has called Carrie's original post defamatory is also true. That's how "defamatory per se" has come to be something of a meme.Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-36828219391435956272014-12-25T09:13:17.536-08:002014-12-25T09:13:17.536-08:00The lawyer's letter does not anywhere claim Le...The lawyer's letter does not anywhere claim Leiter was defamed by either #1 or #2, as you assert. You also omit the specific allegation--namely, the claim that it is false that Leiter's e-mail injured Jenkins's health and abilitiy to work--which would explain why the letter mentions Jenkins's health history as a necessary subject of litigation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-5070310386924501612014-12-24T16:34:22.265-08:002014-12-24T16:34:22.265-08:00In what way is my post a misrepresentation of the ...In what way is my post a misrepresentation of the letters linked?Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05260245860017778409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5673382.post-28487578457741831472014-12-24T14:44:06.207-08:002014-12-24T14:44:06.207-08:00Anonymous: When will you and Brian Leiter stop you...Anonymous: When will you and Brian Leiter stop your bullying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com